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TADFF: The Pierce Brothers on ‘The Wretched’ and the Love of Horror

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Kelly McNeely: You guys did have a bit of that 80s elements at the beginning of the film, because it starts 35 years prior. Why that jump, 35 years?

Brett Pierce: I mean, honestly, it was a weird thing where we shot the whole movie, and we always had this thing because we knew we had a lot of rules to establish for the witch, and things to set up. And we had written an opening, but we didn’t really like it that much. And we got really close to shooting and we’re like, let’s just not shoot an opening, which was kind of dumb. But we were like, we’ll shoot one later, because there’s so many twists and turns and rules that if something doesn’t make sense, maybe we can do an opening that helps surmise or fill in those gaps a little bit.

Sometimes you, as the writer, have dumb questions about the story that you think the audience is going to be worried about, but they actually aren’t worried about. But again, you have to put them in there. I think Drew and I just wanted to say “the witch has been around for a long time”. We wanted to show a microcosm of the whole movie, just in one little scene that sets it up.

Drew Pierce: And if you rewatch the movie, in so many ways, I think you can glean so much information from the entire movie, even the opening. There’s so many things you don’t understand, like mini mysteries, that make perfect sense. 

Brett Pierce: It was also like, we finished and hadn’t edited the movie. And we’re like, “we don’t have a horror grab at the open”. We need something, you know, so we revised it to fit. 

Drew Pierce: Openings are always tricky, because you always need to establish the tone and the feel of everything in the movie. So if anything’s going to be funny in your entire movie, the opening needs a little bit of funny. And if it’s gonna be scary, you need that; you kind of have to do everything.

Brett Pierce: Yeah. Plus we had a lot of family drama in the first 25-30 minutes, so you’ve gotta pace your horror beats so you don’t overdo it on that, and people go, “well wait a minute, am I watching a horror movie?”, so you gotta tell them the movie they’re in for with that first scene. 

Kelly McNeely: And you’ve created this great rewatchability with going back to the beginning and doing it that way; you set up those things that, when you rewatch it, make more sense. 

Brett Pierce: We’re very curious about what people’s opinions are of it the second time they see it, even people that maybe the first time they saw it kind of go, “Enh, I don’t know if I’m into it”. I think some people might actually like it better when they watch it again. 

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Kelly McNeely: And out of curiosity, just popping back for a second, you mentioned that your sound designer did one of the Resident Evil games, was it Resident Evil 7?

Brett Pierce: Yeah, it was the last one. 

Kelly McNeely: That sound design was incredible, it’s terrifying! 

Brett Pierce: Oh, yeah! It’s amazing! That kind of witch spider woman in the house who’s hunting you? Yeah, that was why I was like, I gotta call this guy, I gotta figure out where he’s at. 

But it’s actually really funny with sound design because like, sometimes he plays something back, and I’m like, “oh, where’d you get that? How’d you record that animal?” And he’s like, “nah, man. That’s just me with a microphone”. [laughs]

Drew Pierce: It’s almost like he was excited to trick us.

Kelly McNeely: When you were younger, you mentioned you watched a ton of movies. And obviously, you grew up with horror. What really scared you when you were kids? What was the thing about horror movies that that made you want to keep doing horror movies when working in film?

Brett Pierce: I mean honestly, when I was a kid — I was a little older than Drew, like two, two and a half — and they were doing the effects for Evil Dead in the basement. I snuck downstairs because I wanted to see what dad was doing. And there was a screen setup down there and they were projecting the finale of Evil Dead — the big meltdown sequence. And they didn’t realize what was there, and I watched it, and I was horrified. And they turned on the lights and they just saw this little kid just terrified. So I actually had an irrational fear of horror movies after that. I wouldn’t go into the basement at all.

Drew Pierce: We had the scariest basement of all time!

Brett Pierce: I would never go in that basement. I didn’t watch Evil Dead until I was like 16 because I had this fake version in my head where it was the worst thing that ever happened. I saw some other horror movies, but I kind of avoided them til about 15-16. My transition was watching Aliens, because it’s an action movie but also a horror movie. And then after that, I got obsessed. And I think being so scared by a horror movie in that way made me obsessed with horror movies and wanting to scare other people.

But I also think it’s just that horror movies are the most fun to make. Because you get to do special effects, you get to play with people’s expectations, get some tension. And when you’re shooting a horror movie, it’s the most fun because — no matter how dark the horror is — everybody’s laughing and having a good time. They’re all getting excited when you’re like, “oh, today, we’re gonna rip your head off and the thing is going to crawl out of your body”, and it was like, [excitedly] “oh, that’s today?!” And everybody comes and watches it. Horror movies are hilarious, it’s the best feeling. 

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Kelly McNeely: And that kind of answers my last question, but what do you love about horror?

Brett Pierce: I feel like it’s the way you get people the most involved by telling a story. You have the most cinematic experience in horror movies. Because what I love about horror movies is that dialogue is one of the least important things; it’s all about what the sound design, and music, and the visuals are all telling you, and building up tension. It’s always so exciting and always firmly plants me in the shoes of whatever character I’m watching. 

Drew Pierce: It embraces cinema better than any other genre.

Brett Pierce: Which is a bummer, because it gets looked down upon. But I actually think it’s one of the hardest things to pull off. 

Drew Pierce: In so many ways, I love dramas and I love comedies and other genres, but a lot of them work better — like especially dramas — they work better as novels, because you can get that inner monologue, and it’s so much more powerful. It’s hard to communicate that comparatively to horror. And they’re audience movies too. The thing that’s so exciting about making a horror movie — just as far as going to these festivals — is that you get a reaction. 

Brett Pierce: It’s just the most exciting, it’s the most fun. Horror movies have traditionally been not as expensive to make, so I’m almost always pulling for horror because I know they’re scrappy, and everything that’s in them — whoever made it — is fighting to make it work.

Drew Pierce: The thing that usually hooks all of us horror filmmakers is when you are a kid and you’re daring your friends to watch a horror movie but they won’t. I think that moment for people that are actually horror filmmakers has just resonated so strong that they’re still trying to dare their friends to watch the horror movie, and trying to chase that feeling, because it’s just so powerful.

Kelly McNeely: You don’t get that same kind of atmosphere with a rom-com, that same energy and involvement. There’s something really beautiful about that with horror. 

Brett Pierce: Yeah. It’s the best, man [laughs]. I love it. 

 

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Panic Fest 2024 Review: ‘The Ceremony Is About To Begin’

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People will look for answers and belonging in the darkest places and the darkest people. The Osiris Collective is a commune predicated upon ancient Egyptian theology and was run by the mysterious Father Osiris. The group boasted dozens of members, each forgoing their old lives for one held in the Egyptian themed land owned by Osiris in Northern California. But the good times take a turn for the worst when in 2018, an upstart member of the collective named Anubis (Chad Westbrook Hinds) reports Osiris disappearing while mountain climbing and declaring himself the new leader. A schism ensued with many members leaving the cult under Anubis’ unhinged leadership. A documentary is being made by a young man named Keith (John Laird) whose fixation with The Osiris Collective stems from his girlfriend Maddy leaving him for the group several years ago. When Keith gets invited to document the commune by Anubis himself, he decides to investigate, only to get wrapped up in horrors he couldn’t even imagine…

The Ceremony Is About To Begin is the latest genre twisting horror film from Red Snow‘s Sean Nichols Lynch. This time tackling cultist horror along with a mockumentary style and the Egyptian mythology theme for the cherry on top. I was a big fan of Red Snow‘s subversiveness of the vampire romance sub-genre and was excited to see what this take would bring. While the movie has some interesting ideas and a decent tension between the meek Keith and the erratic Anubis, it just doesn’t exactly thread everything together in a succinct fashion.

The story begins with a true crime documentary style interviewing former members of The Osiris Collective and sets-up what led the cult to where it is now. This aspect of the storyline, especially Keith’s own personal interest in the cult, made it an interesting plotline. But aside from some clips later on, it doesn’t play as much a factor. The focus is largely on the dynamic between Anubis and Keith, which is toxic to put it lightly. Interestingly, Chad Westbrook Hinds and John Lairds are both credited as writers on The Ceremony Is About To Begin and definitely feel like they’re putting their all into these characters. Anubis is the very definition of a cult leader. Charismatic, philosophical, whimsical, and threateningly dangerous at the drop of a hat.

Yet strangely, the commune is deserted of all cult members. Creating a ghost town that only amps up the danger as Keith documents Anubis’ alleged utopia. A lot of the back and forth between them drags at times as they struggle for control and Anubis keeps continuing to convince Keith to stick around despite the threatening situation. This does lead to a pretty fun and bloody finale that fully leans into mummy horror.

Overall, despite meandering and having a bit of a slow pace, The ceremony Is About To Begin is a fairly entertaining cult, found footage, and mummy horror hybrid. If you want mummies, it delivers on mummies!

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“Mickey Vs. Winnie”: Iconic Childhood Characters Collide in A Terrifying Versus Slasher

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iHorror is diving deep into film production with a chilling new project that’s sure to redefine your childhood memories. We’re thrilled to introduce ‘Mickey vs. Winnie,’ a groundbreaking horror slasher directed by Glenn Douglas Packard. This isn’t just any horror slasher; it’s a visceral showdown between twisted versions of childhood favorites Mickey Mouse and Winnie-the-Pooh. ‘Mickey vs. Winnie’ brings together the now-public-domain characters from A. A. Milne’s ‘Winnie-the-Pooh’ books and Mickey Mouse from the 1920s ‘Steamboat Willie’ cartoon in a VS battle like never before seen.

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Set in the 1920s, the plot kicks off with a disturbing narrative about two convicts who escape into a cursed forest, only to be swallowed by its dark essence. Fast forward a hundred years, and the story picks up with a group of thrill-seeking friends whose nature getaway goes horribly wrong. They accidentally venture into the same cursed woods, finding themselves face-to-face with the now monstrous versions of Mickey and Winnie. What follows is a night filled with terror, as these beloved characters mutate into horrifying adversaries, unleashing a frenzy of violence and bloodshed.

Glenn Douglas Packard, an Emmy-nominated choreographer turned filmmaker known for his work on “Pitchfork,” brings a unique creative vision to this film. Packard describes “Mickey vs. Winnie” as a tribute to horror fans’ love for iconic crossovers, which often remain just a fantasy due to licensing restrictions. “Our film celebrates the thrill of combining legendary characters in unexpected ways, serving up a nightmarish yet exhilarating cinematic experience,” says Packard.

Produced by Packard and his creative partner Rachel Carter under the Untouchables Entertainment banner, and our very own Anthony Pernicka, founder of iHorror, “Mickey vs. Winnie” promises to deliver an entirely new take on these iconic figures. “Forget what you know about Mickey and Winnie,” Pernicka enthuses. “Our film portrays these characters not as mere masked figures but as transformed, live-action horrors that merge innocence with malevolence. The intense scenes crafted for this movie will change how you see these characters forever.”

Currently underway in Michigan, the production of “Mickey vs. Winnie” is a testament to pushing boundaries, which horror loves to do. As iHorror ventures into producing our own films, we’re excited to share this thrilling, terrifying journey with you, our loyal audience. Stay tuned for more updates as we continue to transform the familiar into the frightful in ways you’ve never imagined.

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Mike Flanagan Comes Aboard To Assist in Completion of ‘Shelby Oaks’

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If you have been following Chris Stuckmann on YouTube you are aware of the struggles he has had getting his horror movie Shelby Oaks finished. But there’s good news about the project today. Director Mike Flanagan (Ouija: Origin Of Evil, Doctor Sleep and The Haunting) is backing the film as a co-executive producer which might bring it much closer to being released. Flanagan is a part of the collective Intrepid Pictures which also includes Trevor Macy and Melinda Nishioka.

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Shelby Oaks

Stuckmann is a YouTube movie critic who’s been on the platform for over a decade. He came under some scrutiny for announcing on his channel two years ago that he would no longer be reviewing films negatively. However contrary to that statement, he did a non-review essay of the panned Madame Web recently saying, that studios strong-arm directors to make films just for the sake of keeping failing franchises alive. It seemed like a critique disguised as a discussion video.

But Stuckmann has his own movie to worry about. In one of Kickstarter’s most successful campaigns, he managed to raise over $1 million for his debut feature film Shelby Oaks which now sits in post-production. 

Hopefully, with Flanagan and Intrepid’s help, the road to Shelby Oak’s completion is reaching its end. 

“It’s been inspiring to watch Chris working toward his dreams over the past few years, and the tenacity and DIY spirit he displayed while bringing Shelby Oaks to life reminded me so much of my own journey over a decade ago,” Flanagan told Deadline. “It’s been an honor to walk a few steps with him on his path, and to offer support for Chris’ vision for his ambitious, unique movie. I can’t wait to see where he goes from here.”

Stuckmann says Intrepid Pictures has inspired him for years and, “it’s a dream come true to work with Mike and Trevor on my first feature.”

Producer Aaron B. Koontz of Paper Street Pictures has been working with Stuckmann since the beginning is also excited about the collaboration.

“For a film that had such a hard time getting going, it’s remarkable the doors that then opened to us,” said Koontz. “The success of our Kickstarter followed by the on-going leadership and guidance from Mike, Trevor, and Melinda is beyond anything I could have hoped for.”

Deadline describes the plot of Shelby Oaks as follows:

“A combination of documentary, found footage, and traditional film footage styles, Shelby Oaks centers on Mia’s (Camille Sullivan) frantic search for her sister, Riley, (Sarah Durn) who ominously disappeared in the last tape of her “Paranormal Paranoids” investigative series. As Mia’s obsession grows, she begins to suspect that the imaginary demon from Riley’s childhood may have been real.”

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