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‘Torn Hearts’ Director Brea Grant on Fist Fights and Southern Hospitality

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Brea Grant’s enthusiasm is infectious. She has such a love for the genre and a passion for filmmaking, all shared with a bright and encouraging positivity. Whether she’s involved as an actress, writer, or director, it’s always exciting to see her name attached to a project. She has a keen eye for a great film, so you know you’re in good hands. 

Following 12 Hour Shift – now streaming on Shudder – she’s teamed up with Blumhouse and EPIX to tell another Southern tale. Her latest directorial feature, Torn Hearts, follows a country music duo who seek out the private mansion of their idol, and end up in a twisted series of horrors that force them to confront the limits they’d go for their dreams.

I was able to sit down with Brea to discuss Torn Hearts, Katey Sagal, Southern hospitality, and the flaws of a competitive system. 

Kelly McNeely: So, Torn Hearts. What drew you to the script? And how did you get involved with the project?

Brea Grant: Blumhouse sent me the script, and I thought it was amazing. I thought the premise was so interesting, I hadn’t seen anything like that before. Because it combines some things that just didn’t get a lot of screentime, right? Country music singers and horror, no one has ever seen that movie before! So that was my immediate draw to it. And I’m from Texas, so that was the other draw. I wanted to do something in that Southern country music world, I thought that would be really fun. I just thought it could be just a really good time, and it’s such a great platform for three amazing actresses. And then we sort of just went from there, and they liked my ideas and let me make the script. 

As you said, you have some amazing actresses in this film. Katey Sagal is such a powerhouse, and also has a fantastic musical background, which is incredible. Can you talk a little bit about getting her involved in Torn Hearts and working with her? I remember we’d talked before – with 12 Hour Shift – a little bit about working with more mature actresses, which you were really excited about. They just come with such great knowledge and power, and they’re so impressive!

Yeah, exactly! Which is one of the other things that drew me to the script, is that it had this part for an actress who could bring a lot of gravitas to the role. From the beginning, I knew I wanted singers for all three roles, I wanted them to be able to sing. There is a scene – that you’ve seen, no spoilers – where they all sing together live, and actually recorded that live. That’s the recording from the day that we shot it, and I wanted to be able to do that. And knowing Katey had that music background was very interesting to me. And I was a big fan. We’re all big fans of Katey! I think anyone our age is a fan, because she’s done so much, right? She’s done comedy, she’s done drama, but she’s never done horror. So it felt to me like the perfect opportunity to see if she would do it. 

She read the script, and she was like, yeah, I want to come do this movie. And she had a couple of questions, but it was just so wonderful having her there. She’s such a professional, she loves acting, and so for me, it’s like the dream, because I love working with actors. I love getting their input. I love playing with the scene and doing something totally different, and she’s all about that. So it just ended up being a really wonderful experience.

And I love that combination of country music and horror, because as you said, we really don’t see that very often at all, right?

For some reason we keep setting horror movies in like, what camp can it be at? What college can it be at? And I love those movies, don’t get me wrong, and I’m sure I’ll end up making one at some point. But I just thought that this was so interesting to take the world of country music, put a little bit of Misery into it, but also make a statement about the entertainment industry as I go.

And I love that great twist on Southern hospitality –

Yeah! Yeah, come on in, have a drink, you know, but then there’s the inability to say no – it was actually something I talked about with Alexxis [Lemire] and Abby [Quinn] quite a bit, where it’s just hard to say no sometimes. And once you get into the situation where someone is being nice, and they seem like they’re helping you, and you just kind of don’t know when to draw the line. It’s a frog in boiling water situation. They didn’t realize what they were in for until it’s too late.

Absolutely. I do love that, because as a Canadian watching that, I’m like, oh I would be in the same situation. She’s being so nice!

I know! Canadians and Southern people, we’re all doomed in horror movies [laughs]. 

There’s a really awesome – again, no spoilers – fight scene, which I love because it’s rough and unpolished. Can you talk a little bit about filming that and choreographing that?

Yeah, absolutely! That was something I was really looking forward to. As you know, I love putting a fun song over a sequence, that is my favorite thing to do [laughs]. And I knew I had this fun country song that we recorded, and I knew we’re going to have this sequence that could escalate in this way. So I worked with the stunt coordinator, and he was amazing in helping me figure that whole scene out. Because these are not professional fighters, they are musicians, and if I got in a fight, I would look messy and sloppy, and I just would not be hitting really well. And so we wanted to make sure we captured that. And it’s funny, because they are both athletes, and so they looked really good when they were fighting. But I feel like we kind of captured that messy nature of their relationship, but also of how they actually would fight. 

I’m glad you caught that, because my stunt coordinator and I worked a long time on that one trying to make sure it felt realistic. And often women fight differently than men, they swing wilder and they’re less likely to hit – to actually make contact. So we tried to capture some of that. 

A little bit more scrappy when we fight, for sure. 

Yeah, and these two are scrappy. They are scrappy, and they would get into it in that way. And I had never seen a fight like this between two leads. I feel like often with men, we’ll see two men brawl in a movie, but we don’t often get to see two women fight, and I wanted to have it in the movie. 

And there’s so much emotion behind it too, I really love that about it, that was great. Could you talk a little bit about working with Blumhouse?

It was great. It is still great! We’re still working together. I had met them after 12 Hour Shift came out, and they knew that I liked Southern stuff, and I liked stuff that was fun and very entertaining, but also had something to say. And they also knew I was interested in working with women. And they thought of me when they read the script, which was really nice. And they were 100% right. And they’ve just been wonderful. They trusted me with everything, and they’ve given me all the resources I need. It was just a huge honor to be a part of that Blumhouse family.

And with Torn Hearts, as you mentioned, it has something to say, it touches on the entertainment industry and especially the kind of toxic competition between women that’s instigated by men. 

One hundred percent.

Could you talk a bit about that and that theme in the film?

That was the biggest thing I wanted to talk about in the movie, that I didn’t want to judge any of these women, I wanted to come at it from a place where they all were doing things that they had been taught to do, or they were trying to go against the system, they all were trying to win over this impossible system in their own way. And if there is a moral – which I do not like morals in my movies – but if there was one, it’s when women fight, they lose. Which at some point, Katey’s character says, and I think that we’re in this industry where we are pitted against each other. There’ll be one project, and five of my female director friends, we’re all pitching on the same project. But all my male friends are pitching on different projects, and it just seems so weird that we all get brought in for the same thing over and over again. 

Like here’s a slate, here’s the one woman directing the movie, or the one woman in the cast, or the one female DP, it feels like we’re all being pitted against each other for one role. One job. And I just wanted to kind of get that across, that we’re it’s a system that’s built to make us lose.

Absolutely. I think you did a fantastic job communicating that, because it is so true. I love that your films are so female forward, because I feel like women and the horror genre are kind of in perfect harmony. I think we understand it on this different kind of level. So as someone who has been in front of and behind the camera, what role – whether it’s acting, writing, directing – allows you to better tell these stories? And also, speaking of dream duets in this film, if you could – as either an actress or a writer or director – work with one other person as a dream duet project, who would you want to work with?

Oh, yeah! I like writing and directing. I feel like I found my space now. I mean, I think at this point in my life, it’s where I belong more, rather than in front of the camera. And I think both really allowed me to be able to tell stories that I find interesting, and I like them both for different reasons. I do like being around people, so sometimes I’m like, I just need to be on a set! But I also love my house and I love my dog and I sitting on my couch and just reading and reading and writing all day, that’s not a bad life either. So I think I’ve been very blessed to get to do both. 

And um, wow, I can name so many women that I would love to work with. I feel very lucky that I got to work with these women on this movie. But I’ve also been lucky in my past experiences, because I got to work with such cool women. I’m still working with Natasha Kermani, who directed Lucky. We have a couple projects that we’re working on together right now. She’s like the one person that I like writing for on the regular, so she is sort of a dream partner for me. 


You can find Torn Hearts as a digital release on Paramount Home Entertainment, starting May 20. Stay tuned for our review.

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Panic Fest 2024 Review: ‘Haunted Ulster Live’

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Everything old is new again.

On Halloween 1998, the local news of Northern Ireland decide to do a special live report from an allegedly haunted house in Belfast. Hosted by local personality Gerry Burns (Mark Claney) and popular children’s presenter Michelle Kelly (Aimee Richardson) they intend to look at the supernatural forces disturbing the current family living there. With legends and folklore abound, is there an actual spirit curse in the building or something far more insidious at work?

Presented as a series of found footage from a long forgotten broadcast, Haunted Ulster Live follows similar formats and premises as Ghostwatch and The WNUF Halloween Special with a news crew investigating the supernatural for big ratings only to get in over their heads. And while the plot has certainly been done before, director Dominic O’Neill’s 90’s set tale of local access horror manages to stand out on its own ghastly feet. The dynamic between Gerry and Michelle is most prominent, with him being an experienced broadcaster who thinks this production is beneath him and Michelle being fresh blood who is considerably annoyed at being presented as costumed eye candy. This builds as the events within and around the domicile becomes too much to ignore as anything less than the real deal.

The cast of characters is rounded out by the McKillen family who have been dealing with the haunting for some time and how it’s had an effect on them. Experts are brought in to help explain the situation including the paranormal investigator Robert (Dave Fleming) and the psychic Sarah (Antoinette Morelli) who bring their own perspectives and angles to the haunting. A long and colorful history is established about the house, with Robert discussing how it used to be the site of an ancient ceremonial stone, the center of leylines, and how it was possibly possessed by the ghost of a former owner named Mr. Newell. And local legends abound about a nefarious spirit named Blackfoot Jack that would leave trails of dark footprints in his wake. It’s a fun twist having multiple potential explanations for the site’s strange occurrences instead of one end-all be-all source. Especially as the events unfold and the investigators try to discover the truth.

At its 79 minute timelength, and the encompassing broadcast, it’s a bit of a slow burn as the characters and lore is established. Between some news interruptions and behind the scenes footage, the action is mostly focused on Gerry and Michelle and the build up to their actual encounters with forces beyond their comprehension. I will give kudos that it went places I didn’t expect, leading to a surprisingly poignant and spiritually horrifying third act.

So, while Haunted Ulster Live isn’t exactly trendsetting, it definitely follows in the footsteps of similar found footage and broadcast horror films to walk its own path. Making for an entertaining and compact piece of mockumentary. If you’re a fan of the sub-genres, Haunted Ulster Live is well worth a watch.

3 eyes out of 5
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Panic Fest 2024 Review: ‘Never Hike Alone 2’

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There are fewer icons more recognizable than the slasher. Freddy Krueger. Michael Myers. Victor Crowley. Notorious killers who always seem to come back for more no matter how many times they are slain or their franchises seemingly put to a final chapter or nightmare. And so it seems that even some legal disputes cannot stop one of the most memorable movie murderers of all: Jason Voorhees!

Following the events of the first Never Hike Alone, outdoorsman and YouTuber Kyle McLeod (Drew Leighty) has been hospitalized after his encounter with the long thought dead Jason Voorhees, saved by perhaps the hockey masked killer’s greatest adversary Tommy Jarvis (Thom Mathews) who now currently works as an EMT around Crystal Lake. Still haunted by Jason, Tommy Jarvis struggles to find a sense of stability and this latest encounter is pushing him to end the reign of Voorhees once and for all…

Never Hike Alone made a splash online as a well shot and thoughtful fan film continuation of the classic slasher franchise that was built up with the snowbound follow up Never Hike In The Snow and now climaxing with this direct sequel. It’s not only an incredible Friday The 13th love letter, but a well thought out and entertaining epilogue of sorts to the infamous ‘Tommy Jarvis Trilogy’ from within the franchise that encapsulated Friday The 13th Part IV: The Final Chapter, Friday The 13th Part V: A New Beginning, and Friday The 13th Part VI: Jason Lives. Even getting some of the original cast back as their characters to continue the tale! Thom Mathews being the most prominent as Tommy Jarvis, but with other series casting like Vincent Guastaferro returning as now Sheriff Rick Cologne and still having a bone to pick with Jarvis and the mess around Jason Voorhees. Even featuring some Friday The 13th alumni like Part III‘s Larry Zerner as the mayor of Crystal Lake!

On top of that, the movie delivers on kills and action. Taking turns that some of the previous fils never got the chance to deliver on. Most prominently, Jason Voorhees going on a rampage through Crystal Lake proper when he slices his way through a hospital! Creating a nice throughline of the mythology of Friday The 13th, Tommy Jarvis and the cast’s trauma, and Jason doing what he does best in the most cinematically gory ways possible.

The Never Hike Alone films from Womp Stomp Films and Vincente DiSanti are a testament to the fanbase of Friday The 13th and the still enduring popularity of those films and of Jason Voorhees. And while officially, no new movie in the franchise is on the horizon for the foreseeable future, at the very least there is some comfort knowing fans are willing to go to these lengths to fill the void.

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Mike Flanagan Comes Aboard To Assist in Completion of ‘Shelby Oaks’

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If you have been following Chris Stuckmann on YouTube you are aware of the struggles he has had getting his horror movie Shelby Oaks finished. But there’s good news about the project today. Director Mike Flanagan (Ouija: Origin Of Evil, Doctor Sleep and The Haunting) is backing the film as a co-executive producer which might bring it much closer to being released. Flanagan is a part of the collective Intrepid Pictures which also includes Trevor Macy and Melinda Nishioka.

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Shelby Oaks

Stuckmann is a YouTube movie critic who’s been on the platform for over a decade. He came under some scrutiny for announcing on his channel two years ago that he would no longer be reviewing films negatively. However contrary to that statement, he did a non-review essay of the panned Madame Web recently saying, that studios strong-arm directors to make films just for the sake of keeping failing franchises alive. It seemed like a critique disguised as a discussion video.

But Stuckmann has his own movie to worry about. In one of Kickstarter’s most successful campaigns, he managed to raise over $1 million for his debut feature film Shelby Oaks which now sits in post-production. 

Hopefully, with Flanagan and Intrepid’s help, the road to Shelby Oak’s completion is reaching its end. 

“It’s been inspiring to watch Chris working toward his dreams over the past few years, and the tenacity and DIY spirit he displayed while bringing Shelby Oaks to life reminded me so much of my own journey over a decade ago,” Flanagan told Deadline. “It’s been an honor to walk a few steps with him on his path, and to offer support for Chris’ vision for his ambitious, unique movie. I can’t wait to see where he goes from here.”

Stuckmann says Intrepid Pictures has inspired him for years and, “it’s a dream come true to work with Mike and Trevor on my first feature.”

Producer Aaron B. Koontz of Paper Street Pictures has been working with Stuckmann since the beginning is also excited about the collaboration.

“For a film that had such a hard time getting going, it’s remarkable the doors that then opened to us,” said Koontz. “The success of our Kickstarter followed by the on-going leadership and guidance from Mike, Trevor, and Melinda is beyond anything I could have hoped for.”

Deadline describes the plot of Shelby Oaks as follows:

“A combination of documentary, found footage, and traditional film footage styles, Shelby Oaks centers on Mia’s (Camille Sullivan) frantic search for her sister, Riley, (Sarah Durn) who ominously disappeared in the last tape of her “Paranormal Paranoids” investigative series. As Mia’s obsession grows, she begins to suspect that the imaginary demon from Riley’s childhood may have been real.”

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