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Exclusive: A Conversation With Headless Producer Kara Erdel

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In our ongoing coverage of indie film Headless – a spin-off of Found (which Elvira called “as horror as horror gets”), here’s a conversation we recently had with Kara Erdel, who is co-producing the film with Found director Scott Schirmer, and happens to be married to Nathan Erdel, who’s writing the script.

Check out the Kickstarter here.

iHorror: As co-producer, describe your role in the making of this film.

Kara Erdel: Co-producing Headless is really exciting for me because I’ll get to have my fingers into a little bit of everything. Right now we’re all in Kickstarter mode, so my main focus is there, trying to get the word out on social media in every way possible, helping maintain a presence and keep people excited. After the campaign is over, Scott and I will be breaking down the screenplay together, line by line, to pick out the things that need to be created, bought, and scheduled; we’ll scout and secure all of the locations – basically, we are the facilitators to get the script off the page and into people’s eyeballs.

I’m a total Type-A personality at heart, so organizing and mobilizing really serves that, but my favorite part by far is being on set. I like being available to everyone – as a problem-solver, a caretaker, a means to keep the train running – a diplomat, a cool head, whatever I need to be at any particular moment. I love being that resource and being able to take care of my people – it’s just unbelievably important, and little things go SO far when you’re deep into a shoot. I like being the one to figure out what those things are. It’s very much about taking care of the family.


iH: How long have you been in the movie-making business? Can you tell me a little bit about your background?

KE: I think it’s safe to say I’ve spent the better part of the last five to ten years in the filmmaking world. I’ve kind of been all over the place – I’ve had a few tiny acting jobs, including a role in the short movie Come, which was directed by Arthur Cullipher, our fearless leader on Headless. It’s weird, though – I spent a long, long time being immersed in indie filmmaking culture without really finding my place, and then I took on my first producing job – on my husband Nathan’s short, Unwelcome, from the summer of 2013 through the spring of 2014. Maybe it sounds cliché, but it was kind of like coming home – I just sort of innately knew what to do, and I really fell in love with producing during that shoot. So I’m collecting as many projects as I can now, trying to build up my name a little so I can keep doing this for as long as long as I can – or at least as long as people will let me boss them around on their sets!

iH: Might we see you appear in Headless?

KE: I suppose anything is possible! I really fell in love with the work that goes on behind the camera, though, and feel the most comfortable there. That said, it WOULD be pretty boss to get all bloodied up and be dead on-screen or something. Who knows!

iH: How has the Kickstarter process been?

KE: Man, you know, it’s been so gratifying – and surprising, and fun, and a little nerve-wracking. I think that’s normal. But people have just gotten behind us and rallied around us in this way that really speaks to the strength and longevity of Found. It’s really cool that people believe in the project and want to help us make it a reality. It’s really a really encouraging sense of community. We are building the Headless Army! At the moment, we’re coming up on the halfway mark for the campaign, and we’re just about halfway funded – so I think we’re in pretty good shape. We are really lucky – and very, very, grateful.

Note: The Kickstarter only has 9 days left as of the time of this writing, and has raised over $10,000 of its $15,000 goal. 

iH: Making movies isn’t your full-time job. Can you tell us a little about what you do? 

KE: My day job is at the Indiana University Biology Department; I’ve been there a little over five years. So I’m not “in the business” at the moment, which of course isn’t optimal, but it’s very convenient to our situation. I’m pretty lucky, though. It’s a great job for a VERY small department, and I have a lot of freedom, which is rare when you work for a university. Definitely can’t complain.

iH: It sounds like you’ve spent a lot of time with everyone involved in Found, but I didn’t see your name in the credits. Did you work on the movie? What is your experience working with everyone involved? 

KE: It’s true – I didn’t work on Found. They offered me a small role very early on (which I think was for a victim in the Headless portion, ironically), but I had some family stuff going on at the time that was keeping me really busy, and I had to turn it down. Obviously, now I wish things had been different!

As far as working with the Forbidden Films guys goes – they are really special. So much talent there. And quite a few of them were a HUGE help to us on Unwelcome – Leya Taylor was actually our Director of Photography, Shane Beasley and Arthur Cullipher did our makeups – in fact, the bulk of that short was shot in Shane’s house. He basically re-modeled his apartment for us and let us tromp in and out of there for eight weeks – that dude is true blue. I would pretty much do anything those guys asked me to do – and it’s really cool to be a part of Bloomington’s little filmmaking community. We’re sort of a skeleton crew – which is really a pretty fitting descriptor when you think about it – but we’re starting to make things happen! It’s really exciting.

For more on Found and Headless, read our interviews with author Todd Rigney (the brain from which both were born), Found director/Headless producer Scott Schirmer, and Headless screenwriter Nathan Erdel. You can also see our write-up of Unwelcome here. Found is due out on DVD this fall.

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This Horror Film Just Derailed a Record Held by ‘Train to Busan’

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The South Korean supernatural horror film Exhuma is generating buzz. The star-studded movie is setting records, including the derailment of the country’s former top-grosser, Train to Busan.

Movie success in South Korea is measured by “moviegoers” instead of box office returns, and of this writing, it has garnered over 10 million of them which surpasses the 2016 favorite Train to Busan.

India’s current events publication, Outlook reports, “Train to Busan previously held the record with 11,567,816 viewers, but ‘Exhuma’ has now achieved 11,569,310 viewers, marking a significant feat.”

“What’s also interesting to note is that the film achieved the impressive feat of reaching 7 million moviegoers in less than 16 days of its release, surpassing the milestone four days quicker than 12.12: The Day, which held the title of South Korea’s top-grossing box office hit in 2023.”

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Exhuma’s plot isn’t exactly original; a curse is unleashed upon the characters, but people seem to love this trope, and dethroning Train to Busan is no small feat so there has to be some merit to the movie. Here’s the logline: “The process of excavating an ominous grave unleashes dreadful consequences buried underneath.”

It also stars some of East Asia’s biggest stars, including Gong Yoo, Jung Yu-mi, Ma Dong-seok, Kim Su-an, Choi Woo-shik, Ahn So-hee and Kim Eui-sung.

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Putting it in Western monetary terms, Exhuma has raked in over $91 million at the worldwide box office since its February 22 release, which is almost as much as Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire has earned to date.

Exhuma was released in limited theaters in the United States on March 22. No word yet on when it will make its digital debut.

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Watch ‘Immaculate’ At Home Right Now

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Just when we thought 2024 was going to be a horror movie wasteland, we got a few good ones in succession, Late Night With the Devil and Immaculate. The former will be available on Shudder starting April 19, the latter just had a surprise drop on digital ($19.99) today and will be getting physical on June 11.

The film stars Sydney Sweeney fresh off her success in the rom-com Anyone but You. In Immaculate, she plays a young nun named Cecilia, who travels to Italy to serve in a convent. Once there, she slowly unravels a mystery about the holy place and what role she plays in their methods.

Thanks to word of mouth and some favorable reviews, the movie has earned over $15 million domestically. Sweeney, who also produces, has waited a decade to get the film made. She purchased the rights to the screenplay, reworked it, and made the film we see today.

The movie’s controversial final scene wasn’t in the original screenplay, director Michael Mohan added it later and said, “It is my proudest directorial moment because it is exactly how I pictured it. “

Whether you go out to see it while it’s still in theaters or rent it from the convenience of your couch, let us know what you think of Immaculate and the controversy surrounding it.

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Politician Spooked By ‘First Omen’ Promo Mailer Calls Police

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Incredibly, what some people thought they would get with an Omen prequel turned out to be better than anticipated. Maybe it’s partly due to a good PR campaign. Maybe not. At least it wasn’t for a pro-choice Missouri politician and film blogger Amanda Taylor who received a suspicious mailer from the studio ahead of The First Omen’s theatrical release.

Taylor, a Democrat running for Missouri’s House of Representatives, must be on Disney’s PR list because she received some eerie promo merch from the studio to publicize The First Omen, a direct prequel to the 1975 original. Usually, a good mailer is supposed to pique your interest in a film not send you running to the phone to call the police. 

According to THR, Taylor opened the package and inside were disturbing children’s drawings related to the film that freaked her out. It’s understandable; being a female politician against abortion it’s no telling what kind of threatening hate mail you’re going to get or what might be construed as a threat. 

“I was freaking out. My husband touched it, so I’m screaming at him to wash his hands,” Taylor told THR.

Marshall Weinbaum, who does Disney’s public relations campaigns says he got the idea for the cryptic letters because in the movie, “there are these creepy drawings of little girls with their faces crossed out, so I got this idea to print them out and mail them to the press.”

The studio, maybe realizing the idea wasn’t their best move, sent out a follow-up letter explaining that it was all in good fun to promote The First Omen. “Most people had fun with it,” adds Weinbaum.

While we can understand her initial shock and concern being a politician running on a controversial ticket, we have to wonder as a film enthusiast, why she wouldn’t recognize a crazy PR stunt. 

Perhaps in this day and age, you can’t be too careful. 

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